Weazie Oekaki Intermediate

Weazie Oekaki Intermediate
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POLYGONS;; @ Sunday, March 15th 2009, 12:32 AM

EDIT
Done. It's crap, I know.

(Edited on March 18, 2009, 10:21 pm)

Random @ Sunday, March 15th 2009, 2:25 PM

ohgosh I love the lineart

Toasteh @ Sunday, March 15th 2009, 4:47 PM

^iawtc

Konekochan16 @ Tuesday, March 17th 2009, 10:21 PM

IMA LOVING THOSE PANTSUZ

Anne Dyari @ Thursday, March 19th 2009, 9:46 AM

It's not crap, the colors are very vibrant!

My only crits are that there is no highlights, other shadows on her hair, though it is quite cool looking, and her legs look a tad short. Maybe try zooming out and making sure everything is the right proportion in the sketch?

Last crit, and it's not that big, maybe add more weight to her, like, have the bed sinking around her alittle, most mattresses have alittle give to them, and maybe shadow those folds to give them a more weighted effect.

Other than that, Love the hair, the sleeve, the jeans, and I want to own those headphones XD

tigerchic643 @ Thursday, March 19th 2009, 6:36 PM

jdflgkdjfdfgmd this is sssooo cute.
i like ur shading and lines.

cant wait for ur second XD.

POLYGONS;; @ Monday, March 23rd 2009, 9:58 PM

May I please get some more crits?
I really don't think there's only the two minor things that Anne mentioned...

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Anne Dyari @ Sunday, March 22nd 2009, 6:34 PM

just a quick doodle, playing with dodge tool and a new angle.

Timer lies XD majorly.

Random @ Monday, March 23rd 2009, 9:45 PM

;lkgsfdh the background is amazinggg.. i like the purples

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Khadyah @ Saturday, March 21st 2009, 3:16 PM

Done ^-^;;;

(Edited on March 21, 2009, 9:04 pm)

Anne Dyari @ Sunday, March 22nd 2009, 1:25 PM

I'm going to have to say out. My main crit is the limbs, the front fore limb cannot bend that low, and even a straightened limb has some motion to it. The back legs are an issue for everyone, but try looking at a dog as refference, there are three bending points, not just two.

I do, though, really like your shading, and how you did take my advice and integrate the background in more, but still, I reccomend using a refference next time. I hope you come back and tryout again! ^^

A quick redline http://i40.tinypic.com/24nfjav.png

Khadyah @ Sunday, March 22nd 2009, 7:45 PM

O:> oh ok. And thanks for the redline

Toasteh @ Monday, March 23rd 2009, 5:33 PM

Okay, Anne covered most of the crits but I'd like to go on.

The heads are large, but I'll leave that to style. What bothers me about them is that the perspective on them is, well...off. On your green character the eyes show a 3/4 view on the face, while the muzzle says differently. The nose should be more to the front--simply changing the nose's position makes a world of a difference.
As for the face of the white dog, for the most part, you got it correct. I would only suggest looking at more reference. http://kimballstock.com --BOOKMARK IT.

As for the bodies, it doesn't look like you have much of a knowledge of the structure of them. SERIOUSLY, go to that site I showed you above and look up dog or whatever you want to look up. Tell me now, what do we notice? Well your necks (And well, the bodies in general) are rather thin. I hope I'm not being mean when I say the characters look like long-legged ferrets? But yes, the bodies should be much thicker--there're bones and organs and such, you know!

I'd also like to say that I love your shading style, but the shading itself is a bit off. I mean, they're under trees and such right? I'd also like to see you give your characters a little more depth.

I'm going to have to say out for now, honey. I don't think we're quite up to par yet, but all I can suggest is that you go out and STUDY STUDY STUDY for the next six weeks. Make sure you bookmark that site I showed you! Trust me, it helps A LOT. I drew this without reference-- http://i43.tinypic.com/e7gv48.png this-- http://i40.tinypic.com/34dmmn5.png with. Can you see the difference?
Also make sure you study an animal's bone structure, muscles, etc. You can also grab a living animal and just...watch it run...stand...sit...everything, to get an idea of how those bones and muscles are being put to work. If you don't have the time to study all those bones and such, just...hug a puppy. C:

Alright then, I've provided a basic redline-- http://i42.tinypic.com/2dkydsh.jpg

I hope to see you here again in six weeks. I don't think you have much farther to go before being accepted.

Moo @ Monday, March 23rd 2009, 8:46 PM

You have plenty of crits, so I'm not going to add any more here. But good luck on your next tryouts!

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Ichigo @ Monday, March 23rd 2009, 12:14 AM

s.s

Anne Dyari @ Monday, March 23rd 2009, 12:32 AM

I see a tongue XP

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Khadyah @ Thursday, March 19th 2009, 11:58 AM

It's been I while so I thought why not tryout again ^-^; FYI, it's a kangaroo. I'm sorry for choosing an animal with such strange anatomy but I love them and I had this picture in my head 8D

Ok the brb may have been weird but I wanted to comment more but I had to leave ^-^; akdhdka but now I forgot what I was going to say D:> um... PLEASE CRIT -flee- and and the wings stink .-.

(Edited on March 19, 2009, 7:37 pm)

Anne Dyari @ Thursday, March 19th 2009, 10:39 PM

This is really stylized, making it awkward to crit, but the arm looks attatched alittle too foreward, and there's no shoulder. Maybe also have abit more of the upper bend part of the leg be more prominent.
https://www.northrup.org/Photos/Kangaroo/low/kangaroo-laying8.jpg <-- good example of kangaroo legs

Other than that, I wouldn've liked to see more highlights and interaction with the background, but the shading is smooth and and lines are clean. Cute design too, good luck on your next tryout ^^

Toasteh @ Saturday, March 21st 2009, 3:05 PM

I think Anne pretty much covered it but I'd like to add one thing--
Wings? They don't look a whole lot like that. :I
I'm sure this is a fantasy character but fantasy does take up its roots in reality.
I can't redline or anything atm but I would recommend using references when you draw, it's a huge help.
A good stock site is http://kimballstock.com, I end up using it a lot. C:

Khadyah @ Saturday, March 21st 2009, 3:24 PM

@ Tosteh: Yeaaaaah I realize I messed up very badly on the wings ^-^; I'm originally not very good drawing feathery wings plus I added after I started on the lineart because I forgot them...

(Edited by Toasteh)
HARHAR I'm not good at wings either. >u>
I just recommend reference and practice--and not just for wings, it's helpful for poses and anatomy as well!

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Random @ Tuesday, March 10th 2009, 9:00 PM

arg i don't have the patcience to finish this today </3
maybe tomorrow.

Random @ Tuesday, March 10th 2009, 9:08 PM

ah f--
it looks like the picture below

Toasteh @ Tuesday, March 10th 2009, 9:10 PM

NONO FINISH THIS IT'LL BE FUNNY
WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE COME OVER HERE AND DRAW EVERYTHING IN THE SAME POSE!
SERIOUSLY, IT'LL BE HILARIOUS I'M LAUGHING JUST THINKING ABOUT IT!

Random @ Tuesday, March 10th 2009, 9:12 PM

LMAO TOTALLY
I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT YOUR PICTURE XD I JUST LIKE.. SKIPPED OVER IT AND DREW THIS AND THEN I WAS LIKE... OH SHI--

<3

Toasteh @ Tuesday, March 10th 2009, 9:28 PM

Ohoho it's the theme now XDDD
THIS IS GOING TO BE A FUN ONE <3

Random @ Wednesday, March 11th 2009, 8:43 PM

i guess.. it's done now.

Toasteh @ Wednesday, March 11th 2009, 9:55 PM

OKAY THEN
For crits...I'm not really sure what to say as this is mostly just my personal opinion

Well I think a little more could've been done with the water, but I won't count it against you seeing as how I can't do water...at all :C
As for the grass, I don't think it should look just like that. There are lots of little grass blades of different sizes that really shouldn't be...sticking up in the same direction as in your picture. At least not in the wild anyway, which is where this looks like is taking place. Wild grass also should have more variation in types of grass and weeds.
http://i.pbase.com/g4/83/568283/2/61510501.Kansas2006FieldsofWildGrass.jpg
http://www.mnsphoto.com/n_images_SA/SV_img_9625.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/139797540_965d1b9db5.jpg?v=0
As for anatomy the leg farthest away from the viewer is just a little too short.
I can't really crit much on poses like this. |D;
But I will tell you that the face is little off, I would just suggest googling some pictures because I'm too lazy to do it myself. /fail
I really wish you would've put just a little more effort into the squirrel. :C
The blood looks pretty unrealistic, although I can see what you were going for. C:

I'll go ahead and say in. |D

(Edited on March 12, 2009, 10:56 am)

Random @ Thursday, March 12th 2009, 7:58 PM

WELL it was pretty hard for this because i did this all on one layer.. dsgdfj and got lazy.

BUT I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN, thank you! <333

(Edited on March 12, 2009, 7:59 pm)

Random @ Sunday, March 15th 2009, 2:24 PM

this is a tryout you guys know, right. >:c

Detective Wolf @ Thursday, March 19th 2009, 7:34 PM

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tigerchic643 @ Thursday, March 12th 2009, 7:49 PM

jdhfgkdsjflkdf i really havent drawn here lately so here is a spam pick DX.

timerlies i had to do stuff.

Anne Dyari @ Thursday, March 19th 2009, 9:47 AM

Love the softness of the lines XP

tigerchic643 @ Thursday, March 19th 2009, 6:37 PM

thanx XD.

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foofoo1515 @ Monday, March 9th 2009, 7:15 PM

the next tryout (if i get that far) will have a much better background

so here is my first tryout

Anne Dyari @ Monday, March 9th 2009, 8:55 PM

I love how his face and tail are really stylized. Especcially love his eyes. One thing though, it almost looks like his muzzle is crooked, but that might be just the expression ^^;

I like the use of texture in the bg too, but next time if you could maybe make your character more a part of your background?

Otherwise, this is great, your lines are so pretty XP

lenny @ Monday, March 9th 2009, 9:28 PM

this is freakin beautiful D:

im lovin the tail :X

Toasteh @ Monday, March 9th 2009, 9:42 PM

Yeah, Anne's right the muzzle's a little crooked. I can redline the face for you, gimme a sec. C:

I REALLY LIKE THIS THOUGH
I would've preferred maybe making the shading more "furry" on the tail, but I don't think you should have many problems getting in. C:

One more thing though--please try to watch the coloring. There are a whole bunch of white spots OH NO. D:
Okay that's it. |D

Edit: Face redline C:
http://i40.tinypic.com/k04p7a.png
Hope it helps, but the eyes were a little large and the head just a wee bit too small. Of course...about the eyes...style I'm guessing?

Anyway, goodluck! <3

(Edited on March 9, 2009, 9:51 pm)

Detective Wolf @ Tuesday, March 10th 2009, 11:24 PM

dawwwwwwwwww it's so adorable and cute
the anatomy on the body is so cool lookin' and the shading is amazing
already stated, the head/snout don't really line up
like the eyes and head are facing one way, while the snout is facing the other
I don't really agree with the redline given,
so I'd recommend looking at irl pictures of dogs like here
http://www.cbv.ns.ca/bec/riley1.jpg

(Edited by Toasteh)
YEAH my redlines are usually pretty inacurate. |D;
It's why I don't like doing them very often sldkf
Oh yeah, I did it based on the eyes' postions. D:

foofoo1515 @ Wednesday, March 11th 2009, 6:03 PM

thanks you guys for all your tips

oh and for the slanted mouth, my style you'll sometimes see it like that to give it a goofy affect but i sometimes put the wrong position so i'll fix that too ^________^ thank you all <3 i will start tryout 2 soon

Toasteh @ Wednesday, March 11th 2009, 10:06 PM

OH alright then just ignore my redline then. |D;
http://i40.tinypic.com/2rnaqeo.png
This blackline is probably a little more accurate for the look you were going for, not perfect, just the gist of it. :I

lenny @ Thursday, March 12th 2009, 4:52 AM

:X....i really like it....maybe hes a crooked faced dog ?
:X....my friends dog has kink in his tail...maybe it could be something like that?

-ramble-

i still really like it...did you even use the beizer tool?

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Daisoku @ Saturday, February 28th 2009, 9:03 AM

My 2nd tryout here..

It's been a while since my first..

1st: http://oekaki.weazie.com/intermediate/pictures/138.png

This is also the theme, Draw human charas as animals.. Miyaro and Nervana!

Soo~
CRITS & COMMENTS PLZU?

(Edited on February 28, 2009, 9:11 am)

Toasteh @ Saturday, February 28th 2009, 3:15 PM

I'm going to have to say out, sorry hon. :C

MUCH MUCH MUCH needed improvement from your last tryouts, but I don't think we're quite up to par yet.

I don't really have time to crit, I'll leave that to the others. :C

Edit: Gimme a sec, I'll redline for you

(Edited on February 28, 2009, 7:49 pm)

Edit: I redlined as best I could
http://i40.tinypic.com/w82jcw.jpg
Keep in mind that my anatomy is pretty blah...I just tried to get the gist of it. :I

(Edited on February 28, 2009, 8:05 pm)

Loveless @ Saturday, February 28th 2009, 4:46 PM

Yeah. I'd say out.

you anatomy needs some work my love, you need to make your doggies longer~Remember, there's rib cages and stuff inside thar, so. And the back leg ankles are up to high-

http://www.visuallee.com/weblog/images/3_4dogs_sm.jpg
http://www.greatdanelady.com/Images/dog_legs_hod_3.jpg
http://portraitxpress.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/anatomy-1-dog.jpg

Give me some bonesss~In my meaning, Those legs look to loose, and your necks are a bit too short darling, but don't go out and turn them into giraffes n__n

Mhm okay, now thats all I got.

(Edited on February 28, 2009, 4:56 pm)

(Edited on March 7, 2009, 11:49 am)

Moo @ Sunday, March 1st 2009, 9:17 PM

I say you're ALMOST there. I'm still a little shaky with the standards here, but I can tell you're around the skill level.
Just a little more practice and you'll get in C:
(and listen to those guy's crits. they are seriously helpful if you really read them and consider what they're saying)

Daisoku @ Tuesday, March 3rd 2009, 1:44 PM

Alright, Thank you guys, for all your comments.
I'll practise some more, then try again some other time.

Konekochan16 @ Friday, March 6th 2009, 12:45 AM

I might be a bit late, but maybe this blackline can help you a bit more?

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8990/70750343.png

GOOD LUCK!

(Edited on March 6, 2009, 12:46 am)

ShaoShao @ Saturday, March 7th 2009, 10:43 AM

Loveless, I hope you realise how wrong that comment on anatomy in cartoon animals is.

lenny @ Sunday, March 8th 2009, 8:26 AM

if your cartooning you must know the rules in order to break them.

(Edited on March 9, 2009, 9:29 pm)

Loveless @ Sunday, March 8th 2009, 6:13 PM

I was only trying to critique.

but i guess I won't mention about cartoon styles next time...

ShaoShao @ Tuesday, March 10th 2009, 2:39 PM

As Lenny said, even to create a cartoon you need to know the basics of anatomy. Unless it's abstract, a cartoon will have an anatomical structure to each living character.

It's perfectly acceptable to look at Disney and so on to understand how people depict aspects of real anatomy. It's not a substitute by far, but it does have real anatomy in its foundations. Saying otherwise is a falsity.

(Edited on March 10, 2009, 2:40 pm)

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lenny @ Wednesday, February 25th 2009, 10:43 PM

So uhm
im just gonna say this is finished because...i really just want it done and over with XD;
if i mess with this anymore im afraid im going to mess it up so.
Critic away :x

IN : x x x x x
OUT :
BorderLine :

(Edited on February 28, 2009, 5:56 pm)

(Edited on March 2, 2009, 1:40 pm)

(Edited on March 8, 2009, 8:27 am)

Toasteh @ Wednesday, February 25th 2009, 10:55 PM

Auuugh finish sooooooon
You have such a cool style qwq

Bixie-Bee @ Thursday, February 26th 2009, 8:25 PM

lol, yay for lots of information!
but it looks awesome so far! I <3 your anatomy skills

lenny @ Thursday, February 26th 2009, 11:51 PM

th-thanks but i adore your coloring D:

Detective Wolf @ Friday, February 27th 2009, 1:24 AM

dfmskfms;
that little face cracked me up so bad fkslfjla

lenny @ Friday, February 27th 2009, 1:25 AM

i bet it did.

darkvine @ Friday, February 27th 2009, 10:21 PM

woah this is great looking
cant wait to see it finished

Loveless @ Saturday, February 28th 2009, 1:03 PM

mmmmmmm

I am loving those colors.

Damnit woman, your amazinggginggg

Daisoku @ Saturday, February 28th 2009, 1:24 PM

That is.
So cool.

I'm not in here but you should be.

Toasteh @ Saturday, February 28th 2009, 3:41 PM

I really wish you could've worked on this more. D:

ANYWAY, I VOTE IN

You meet the "Standards" pretty well...and I really don't have time to critique bawww D:

BUT ANYWAY GET'CHUR BOOTY IN HERE
AND GIMME A PCHAT LINK SO WE CAN PCHAT
AND DETECTIVIE CAN STALK US

Detective Wolf @ Sunday, March 1st 2009, 12:16 AM

yes in that face still cracks me up

lenny @ Sunday, March 1st 2009, 9:35 AM

lol@Detective;;

Moo @ Sunday, March 1st 2009, 9:18 PM

hey you
yeah you
inplz

Bixie-Bee @ Sunday, March 1st 2009, 11:23 PM

DANGG
you got a whole thing going here, it's not just a picture on a background it's a picture with a background, it's like, without the background the picture would loose some emotion.
this is CRAZY awesome, lol, I think after this, try out for advanced too, you'd get along there so well too!

lenny @ Monday, March 2nd 2009, 1:39 PM

DX <33 you guys are too nice;;;

Ichigo @ Friday, March 6th 2009, 7:54 PM

In. The detail is amazing. THAT FOOT. I love that foot. This pic really makes you wonder what happened.

Loveless @ Friday, March 6th 2009, 11:39 PM

oh btw~

in.

lenny @ Friday, March 6th 2009, 11:51 PM

@everyone above :X

THANK YOU.
YOU ARE DA BOMB.
:x you guys are so cool.

:x do i need more votes?

(Edited on March 6, 2009, 11:52 pm)

Toasteh @ Tuesday, March 10th 2009, 11:25 AM

I think this is enough |D;

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Anne Dyari @ Sunday, March 8th 2009, 3:07 AM

we needs to be more active here!

lenny @ Sunday, March 8th 2009, 8:18 AM

i was saying that in my head :x
or i was asking that question :x

Toasteh @ Sunday, March 8th 2009, 8:49 PM

INDEED q q
I should draw something, brb

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lenny @ Tuesday, February 24th 2009, 11:02 PM

TIS FINISHED...
well as finished as it'll get anyway XD;;;
:333...ermmm
Yeah hi.

(Edited on February 25, 2009, 10:25 pm)

POLYGONS;; @ Tuesday, February 24th 2009, 11:21 PM

Really great perspective!
Good luck :3
<333

lenny @ Tuesday, February 24th 2009, 11:23 PM

th-thanks D: <33 you too :]

Toasteh @ Wednesday, February 25th 2009, 11:33 AM

Ahh yes good luck!
You probably shouldn've have many problems getting in, newer oekakis tend to have lower standards. C:
BUT NOT THAT IT SHOULD MATTER BECAUSE YOUR STYLE IS COOL.

tigerchic643 @ Wednesday, February 25th 2009, 4:14 PM

this is so amazing so far.
please finish soon. =]

lenny @ Wednesday, February 25th 2009, 4:15 PM

toast.. do you have another account somewhere?
maybe uhh, sron or something?

edit:
thanks @ both btw XD

(Edited on February 25, 2009, 4:15 pm)

(Edited by Toasteh)
I started drawing again at Sutaro Sketcher as Spartacus. C:
I probably won't be there very much though...
Oh yeah, and I lurk a little at SRON as Toasteh...I'll try to tryout soon. C:

lenny @ Wednesday, February 25th 2009, 6:01 PM

ah i see.
i dont go to sron anymore..haha;
i dont know why though im more of the pchat type of person.
but i guess i like it here better, its more calmer.

(Edited by Toasteh)
Yeah, I like it better here too. |D;
If this place becomes as chaotic as Sutaro I might consider leaving...but I probably won't...I'm a really nostalic person and I've been here for two years so...I have a sort of patriotism towards Weazie. C:
And I loooove pchat but I haven't in...a long time...

~
Dude me eitherrrr. we should totally do it together!
not now though = w= im SUPPOSED to be writing a paper;; ha..ha..ha...

(Edited on February 25, 2009, 6:38 pm)

Detective Wolf @ Wednesday, February 25th 2009, 7:53 PM

dude good luck!!
and I might have to stalk my way into a pchat that you guys have

lenny @ Wednesday, February 25th 2009, 7:54 PM

pshh you dont have to stalk i give you link you just tell me when ;D

Toasteh @ Wednesday, February 25th 2009, 10:54 PM

IT'S DONE CRIT TIME!

Hmmm well my human anatomy isn't that great. :I
WELL THEN!
The shading, especially on the grass, looks a bit rushed 'n sloppy, but hey, who am I to talk right? -shot-
Well I REALLY LIKE PERSPECTIVE. JUST SO YOU PEOPLE TRYING OUT KNOW, PERSPECTIVE IS A PRETTY BIG WIN IN MY BOOK, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CAN PULL IT OFF LIKE THIS.
It's just a bit off, and when drawing perspective please remember that shading gets darker the farther away the subject is from the light source, in this case I'm assuming the sun?
I see you paid attention to that just below the knees but the rest of the pants could be darker as well (UNLESS of course those pants are made of a very reflective material, but it looks to me like jeans).
The background perspective is just a weeee bit off. what we have going on here is a term referred to as 'tilted perspective'--obvious meaning. The tree almost appears to be falling down, the flower's perspecitve just a little bit off. AND WE'RE MISISNG SOMETHING HERE.
SHADOW!!
FIGURES CAST SHADOW!
UH-OH!
WE GOT A SEVERE CASE OF PETER PAN SYNDROME!
The tree leaves should also be casting a shadow, and because of the leaves it would probably cast a really splotchy-looking one.

OTHER THAN THAT YOU PULLED THIS OFF QUITE NICELY.
I won't crit on the anatomy, I'll leave that to the more knowledgeable of it, but YEAH.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT NEXT TRYOUT.

AND SEND ME A LINK TO A PCHAT 'CAUSE I WANNAAAAA D:
AND WE CAN HAS A DETECTIVIE STALKER

Detective Wolf @ Thursday, February 26th 2009, 10:12 PM

/stalk /stalk /stalk

(Edited by Toasteh)
STALKERRRRR IMA CALL DAH POHLEES

Detective Wolf @ Friday, February 27th 2009, 1:25 AM

e-police doesn't scare me! >:3