Weazie Oekaki Intermediate

Weazie Oekaki Intermediate
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Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Wednesday, November 25th 2009, 11:13 PM

umm idk if im accepted or not...

Toasteh @ Wednesday, November 25th 2009, 11:25 PM

Yep! Welcome to WOI! cB

chainedfox @ Wednesday, November 25th 2009, 11:42 PM

i would say your accepted! welcome

this is really cute, i like the fur and colors

soulwithin465 @ Thursday, November 26th 2009, 12:41 AM

Yep yep you are~!

soulwithin465 @ Thursday, November 26th 2009, 12:43 AM

And oh gosh this is adorable!!!
I love the shading >3<

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Friday, November 27th 2009, 12:18 PM

ahaha thanks guys x3

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Seidal @ Sunday, November 22nd 2009, 4:28 AM

I figured trying out would be a good way to improve since many of the critiques here are so helpful.

WIP - might take a while (Papers!)

(Edited on November 22, 2009, 3:37 pm)

Anne Dyari @ Sunday, November 22nd 2009, 6:05 PM

Can't wait to see this finished, good luck!

soulwithin465 @ Sunday, November 22nd 2009, 9:56 PM

Oh man, I'm excited to see this finished!
I love that your working so big too!

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Majestic Cardboard Box @ Saturday, November 21st 2009, 9:22 PM

Trying out because... well i dunno

So tryout 1

(AKWARD BENDING LEG POWERS GO!!!!!)

(Edited on November 21, 2009, 9:24 pm)

Toasteh @ Saturday, November 21st 2009, 11:42 PM

Uhh well I don't have a lot of time so I'll cover what I can, and leave the rest to someone else.

My biggest problem is that I can't really...tell if this is feral or anthro, so that makes it kind of hard to critique the anatomy...but I CAN tell you that those are some really big paws. The face is off too, but I can redline that in a minute. UM I'd say more, but if this /is/ anthro then I'll leave that for someone else to handle, as I'm more of a feral artist myself.
Well my next issue is the background. Please don't reply saying "I got lazy," that's a terrible excuse. There's a lot of inconsistency here. The style of shading used on the character clashes too much with the styles of shading used on the sky and sun.
Obviously, SOMEONE has to say that it's impossible to sit on a cloud, but I'd rather not...you know...WHATEVER
Now most people will tell you that it's best to change the color of your lineart, and in many cases, such as this one, it's true. HOWEVER, you can take this up a notch by sort of shading your lineart, catch my drift? As in, places where more of the light hits is lighter, etc....YOU KNOW??

Uhh that's it, I'll go ahead and get to the redline.

Edit: http://i50.tinypic.com/1zg96oz.png Apparently I do better with redlines lol
Well it's not perfect...but I hope it helps...
And let me know if my handwriting is too hard to read and I'll translate lol

(Edited on November 22, 2009, 12:00 am)

chainedfox @ Saturday, November 21st 2009, 11:46 PM

i like your style and use of textures, you paid very nice attention to the color and the shading is very well done

the only crits i have are the antomy, the head dosn't seem to connect with the lower half of the body, the paws are to big and much to long for the rest of the body, and i will leave the rest of the crits to someone else

soulwithin465 @ Sunday, November 22nd 2009, 12:17 AM

Yeah come join us here >w<

Whoa and you have a pretty sweet shading style! I envy people who can do solids.

ANYWAYS

I really love the colors and various tones you used! They really accent the highlights and shadows. It?s also clear where your light source is coming from; however, I find some of the highlights to be a bit awkward. For example on the left paw in the front, the shading seems rather forced and unnatural. I think if you didn?t make the gradients following the same shape and form as each tone then it would blend a bit better; and same with the right leg. But the shading on the rest of the body is lovely! I really enjoy the fur textures you used and the fact that you aren?t following the contour lines for shading but rather the form of the body and fur. I also enjoy the tones you used for the sky. They work well with separating the subject matter from the background but at the same time bled them both together to make one piece. I think the black outline around the sun and clouds is a bit too distinct but luckily it doesn?t take away too much from the image. The anatomy also seems fairly decent; however, some parts are rather stiff. I feel like the tail should have a more flowing feeling to it. It seems too straight to me. But overall this is a good tryout!

Well, good luck on your second! I?m really looking forward to seeing it >w<

Redline~> http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/soulwithin465/290copy.jpg

*note* I?m guessing this is a k-9 if not then sorry! But if it is then the paws should be smaller. Dogs tend to have smaller paws, its cats that have the bigger ones. Also since he (or she) is lying down the stomach shouldn?t arch in the manner that it does. Rather it should be resting on the cloud to give it a more natural look. Well, hope this all helps! Don?t rely too much on redlines though, actually photos and real life observation are the best ;]

Toasteh @ Sunday, November 22nd 2009, 1:34 PM

^this x1000

issi_007 @ Tuesday, November 24th 2009, 10:46 AM

idk if anyone has covered what I'm saying now, but anyhow...:

First of all, I'd like to say that I love the clean lineart! And the design and concept of this are extremely cool <333
As for the shading, you should be very careful with how you shade. I cannot find the lightsource when I forget about the sun and focus on how you shaded this.
Basically, everything beneath the canid should be shaded (draw a horizontal line just above the canid's paws. The area beneath the line should be for the most part shaded, with no highlights showing on it) because of the angle you put the sun in.

I'll do a redline of the shading, just wait a moment.

And while shading, notice the colour of the sun. That colour is the colour of the light that is emerging from it. The colours you used to shade the clouds reflect exactly that. However, you used completely different hues for shading the canid. On the canid, the colours seem almost flat and grey because you didn't use the sun's colour as a starting point.

EDIT: http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/issi007/redlinemajesticcardboardbox.png
Didn't concentrate much on the anatomy, but more on the shading. And I just used a very strong blue to simply show shading, not because that is the colour you would shade with.

REMEMBER: warm (as in colour) lightsources give warm hightlights and cold shadows. Cold lightsources give cold highlights and warm shadows. Whilst shading, you shade with the complimentary colour of the original colour. For example, if the lightsource gives off red light (bloodred light, not orange in any way), then you shade with green. But because the lightsource isn't very extreme, the green hue isn't so visible, and so the red and green blend together and create a brown-ish colour.
Bear this in mind, because this could easily lift your shading even more up, creating a more environmental and consistent feel.

I hope you'll make sense of what I said just now, and hope it helps c:

BUT ANYHOW
I love the concept of this, and I really love how you combined tones into this. Such a lovely effect~

Good luck c:

(Edited on November 24, 2009, 11:20 am)

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soulwithin465 @ Saturday, November 21st 2009, 12:24 PM

When unsure of what to draw abnormally retarded looking Pikachus always do the trick~

So yeah finished make a ref sheet for my character Sheaku~!!!! I'm so happy even though I hate how it came out >w<
~> http://soulwithin465.deviantart.com/art/Sheaku-Ref-144303880

(Edited on November 21, 2009, 12:27 pm)

chainedfox @ Saturday, November 21st 2009, 12:56 PM

lol,thats genius, the pick made me laugh, and my friend thought i was crazy until i showed her it

thats a very good ref page u made, the character is really cool,i might do fanwork of it when i get the chance and if i'm not to lazy
you shouldent hate how it came out, the character is creative

(Edited on November 21, 2009, 1:00 pm)

soulwithin465 @ Saturday, November 21st 2009, 11:31 PM

Ahaha yeah I always laugh whenever I see funny looking Pikachus~

Ahh and thank youuu<333 Ah we should do a trade some time if you'd like! That would be fun >w<

chainedfox @ Saturday, November 21st 2009, 11:41 PM

yeah, i'm open for a trade anytime, just tell me when and what character

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soulwithin465 @ Saturday, November 21st 2009, 10:45 AM

chainedfox you have inspired me to finally make a ref for at least one of my characters~

This obviously isn't it though!
Gona do it in photoshop =P
So I'll post a link to it when I'm done hehe. Don't know how its gona turn out but hopefully it'll be somewhat decent!

chainedfox @ Saturday, November 21st 2009, 12:59 PM

i love the expression
the ref u made was very well done, better than any of mine, well done
*applauds*

soulwithin465 @ Saturday, November 21st 2009, 11:16 PM

Ah thank youuu~

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soulwithin465 @ Wednesday, November 18th 2009, 11:28 PM

Ahhh so excited for Mario Galaxy 2!!!

Also Silent Hill for the Wii is coming out soon so ahhhh can't wait for that game either >3<

What games do you all like ta play?? If you play games that is~

Toasteh @ Thursday, November 19th 2009, 10:14 PM

AAAAA NEW MARIO GALAXY??? AWESOME

I play pretty much any LoZ or Mario game...except for the Toon Link games...? I never...liked them...
I also play Pokemon aren't I so cool

soulwithin465 @ Thursday, November 19th 2009, 11:15 PM

Ah yes it's coming out some time next year >w< It's kinda far away but I'm just so happy to hear they are making a sequal!

And ahh yes! They're also making a new Zelda =D Hmm the more cartoony one's are alright but not as good as others...

AHH and I play Pokemon too! YES you are deffinatly cooooool >3<

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Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Friday, November 13th 2009, 11:49 PM

Getting a start on my second tryout.

I'm watching Slumdog Millionaire! 8D
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Meh, finished now
Only halfway pleased w/ how this turned out

oh well

Tryout 1: http://oekaki.weazie.com/intermediate/pictures/275.png

Comment & crit plz (also, a redline on this or my first tryout pic would be nice if needed)

(Edited on November 13, 2009, 4:52 pm)

issi_007 @ Friday, November 13th 2009, 5:14 PM

Redline: http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/issi007/redlinekyuubi-kitsune.png

This is a very beautiful tryout! I love the details here, and how you did the grass!
You seem to have a fairly good grasp at shading and use of oekaki tools, and the concept of this is really nice <33

So onto crits: the tree trunk looks very thick and the texture doesn't seem very tree-like. I wish you'd gone over the details with a smaller brush, just like you did on the canid (and you did an awesome job on fur, I must say) so the grass, tree texture and the leaves of the treetops would be more defined.

The stars claim my attention at once because of their strong contrast towards the dark sky. Just a tip: try not to distract the viewer subconciously off the main object (in this case, the canid, I presume) with very strong contrasts (sky colour versus stars, or the moon).

The anatomy looks fairly good; You seem to have a good grasp upon proportions, but be careful with the size of the torso compared with the neck! Canids usually have a lot of fur on their neck, so be careful with making the neck a lot slimmer than the size of the torso, unless the canid is short-haired.

But overall, an amazing tryout, and I can see that you spent A LOT of time on this, without looking at the timer.

I say in. c:
~~And an admin should delete previous comments.~~

And I hope this helped c:

(Edited on November 13, 2009, 5:33 pm)

(Edited on November 14, 2009, 7:00 am)

soulwithin465 @ Saturday, November 14th 2009, 7:06 AM

The fact that you put so much time and effort into each tryout is wonderful! And it really shows!

You obviously know what your doing with the oekaki tools. And your shading in both tryouts is great! I think you could have done a bit more with the tree though..more detail and more defined shading. But overall the subjct matters blend well with eachother and I like the depth that you've put into the background.

I vote IN =]

Toasteh @ Saturday, November 14th 2009, 7:33 PM

I think all the crits have been covered, so I say in as well.

soulwithin465 @ Saturday, November 14th 2009, 11:22 PM

Oh gosh I also must say that your icon is so cute >w<

chainedfox @ Sunday, November 15th 2009, 2:31 PM

this is very well done, the antomys a little off, but thats okay, the background is simply delicious, i like the stream
well done
i vote IN also

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Thursday, November 19th 2009, 4:50 PM

<3 <33 <333 <33 <3
thanks so much you guys ;___;
uh so I don't know how many more "in"s I'll need but um thanks<3

soulwithin465 @ Thursday, November 19th 2009, 11:18 PM

I think you have enough~
I don't think anyone is gona vote out and not many people are here...so you can probably just come on in and draw your heart out~!

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soulwithin465 @ Sunday, November 8th 2009, 12:42 AM

my motivation to do anything productive is at zero

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Tuesday, December 1st 2009, 1:49 PM

I absolutely love this like you have no idddeeeeaaa how much i love this <3

UNKNOWN_ARTIST @ Wednesday, February 10th 2010, 8:42 PM

i like this very much

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soulwithin465 @ Saturday, November 7th 2009, 11:55 PM

Something random I might refine in photoshop =P

Ichigo @ Wednesday, November 11th 2009, 8:16 PM

ZOMG. AWESOME! Do try to do more! I love the wings and the faces.

Oria @ Sunday, December 20th 2009, 3:39 PM

i know no one's prob going to see this comment and i dont draw on weazie much (sob) but i am ABSOLUTELY IN LOVE this picture ;u;

soulwithin465 @ Saturday, January 2nd 2010, 1:43 PM

AHH thank you <33333

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soulwithin465 @ Saturday, November 7th 2009, 10:54 PM

Have a goblin~

chainedfox @ Monday, November 9th 2009, 3:46 PM

i think i will thank u, this is very loverly

Ichigo @ Wednesday, November 11th 2009, 8:20 PM

0w0
Idolike.

Loveless @ Tuesday, November 17th 2009, 1:12 PM

You wanna know what I think of this?

I think it is darling <33 please draw more adorable goblins.

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tigerchic643 @ Thursday, November 5th 2009, 7:33 PM

neon need a new ref Dx. anyway i think im gonna start drawing here more since there r more people getting in =D.

Taz @ Friday, November 6th 2009, 4:06 PM

ahhh i love all of these colors haha. and screamo, ya cant go wrong with some good screamo

chainedfox @ Friday, November 6th 2009, 4:57 PM

shes coolness
i like her design, and how the purple stands out

tigerchic643 @ Saturday, November 7th 2009, 11:50 AM

heheh thanx guys. =D

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Pirate @ Wednesday, November 4th 2009, 10:51 PM

Another quickie :I yupp

Mara @ Thursday, November 5th 2009, 1:52 PM

aaaa Pirate
I don't think you have to retryout xD
both your tryouts look great
I really love the style you used in both of them
I don't really have any crits
except maybe next time fill in the grass stuff in the background better
that's not really a crit though xD maybe just advice
but yeah in for sure

chainedfox @ Thursday, November 5th 2009, 3:35 PM

yes,both of ur tryouts are really good, i really love the creative thinkin and greeness of it all,maybe u could do a little more wit the background, but this is really nice, i say in

(Edited on November 5, 2009, 3:36 pm)

tigerchic643 @ Thursday, November 5th 2009, 4:55 PM

i really do like ur tryouts. and i do agree. u could add alittle more bg and a little more shading. but i think ur an amazing artist. i say in!!

Taz @ Thursday, November 5th 2009, 4:57 PM

yes Mara is right, i dont think youd have to tryout either haha. but id say in for sure, you have a really cool style. i like how you just used one basic color in each of your tryouts. they were both very unique and you pulled them off well

Pirate @ Thursday, November 5th 2009, 5:24 PM

Ahhh, thanks guys!

I'll try to draw something actually worth your time in the near future. I was just too lazy last night to spend more than thirty min on anything XD

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Pirate @ Wednesday, November 4th 2009, 10:00 PM

I've been looking for some place to doodle and noticed that weazie was back? I used to be accepted on advanced a couple years back, but yeah. I'm too lazy to do a real tryout, but I did this little doodle. If it's... not intermediate enough, I can go doodle somewhere else pffft I just want a place to come every now and then. Also... timer lies a little bit pffft I've been watching TV

(Edited on November 4, 2009, 10:04 pm)

chainedfox @ Thursday, November 5th 2009, 3:33 PM

your antomy skills are really great!and i love the creativity in its design
well done

soulwithin465 @ Saturday, November 7th 2009, 10:56 PM

Oh my this is so pretty! Love the design <3

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Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Wednesday, October 28th 2009, 7:13 PM

Dooonnnnnnnnne
I probably could've done more but I'm getting really tired of this.. >_<
Crit away plz!!

(Edited on October 28, 2009, 4:50 pm)

chainedfox @ Thursday, October 29th 2009, 3:48 PM

not sure if im actuauly in but, this is very good,the shading seems to match and all, the antomy seems a little off, but im not good at drawing humans so i will leave those crits to someone else

Taz @ Thursday, November 5th 2009, 4:59 PM

oh wow, the amount of detail you put into this is incredible. its a very cute idea as well n_n i also do not have much knowledge on human anatomy so i won't critique you there. i love the softness on most of this, but some edges seem a little sharp. for example, on thumbelina's arm and on top of the thread. perhaps you couldve softened those lines up a little to help the rest of the picture flow with the softness of the background. i think you're doing great though, good luck!

Puppy @ Friday, November 6th 2009, 10:16 PM

It's nicely textured and shaded, but the anatomy is a bit off. Some of the lines are jagged, and, well, the tomato pin cushion is a bit funny looking. If you're aiming for the top of the pin look, maybe look at some pictures, or if you have one in real life, look at it? The baskets nice, too, and the shadings nearly perfect. I do say the clothing is a bit funny looking though, around the shoulders and that right knee. It's nice, though. Good luck.

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Saturday, November 7th 2009, 12:37 PM

Thanks for the comments, guys @w@ they're really appreciated.
chainedfox: hehe I'm not the greatest at human anatomy either, but I wanted to give it a try.
Taz: I definatly agree with what you said about the jaggedy lines. I think at some point I just grew bored of this picture and... got lazy

but I'll try harder next time! (maybe xD)
Puppy: yeah, as i said before, I'm not the greatest when it comes to human anatomy. As for what you said about the pin cushion, my mom has one, and I tend to push the pins all the way in so you can only see the top...haha :D. I agree about the clothing too, and I'm usually good about how clothing looks... *fail* lol

Thanks so much for critiquing you guys!!

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soulwithin465 @ Thursday, October 8th 2009, 9:04 AM

random character design...its a dino/bird thing =P

chainedfox @ Thursday, October 8th 2009, 1:44 PM

this is cool
i love the coloring here ,,, r u in the sr oekaki?

(Edited on October 8, 2009, 1:44 pm)

soulwithin465 @ Thursday, October 8th 2009, 11:10 PM

hehe thanks~!

Yeah I'm Akdrea on sro =]

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