Weazie Oekaki Intermediate

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Khadyah @ Wednesday, January 12th 2011, 8:44 PM

Contest prize for a friend on deviantArt

Eeheee this bro was fun to draw :3 Quite a challenge taking the style he was originally drawn it, which was kind of a minimalist kind of style.

But I had a lot of fun and I haven't done anything on oekaki for a while it felt good doing it once again :3

Anyway I hope you enjoy it, and I would love some critiques because I tried some new things in the picture like candle light shading and using more than one light source :3

(Edited on January 15, 2011, 5:11 pm)

Nobody @ Saturday, January 15th 2011, 11:54 PM

would the other light source be, like, the sun?
and are they in a forest, or just a treehouse of some sort?

Khadyah @ Sunday, January 16th 2011, 3:07 PM

Yeah the other source would be the sun, coming from the left :0 And it's sort of both, the house is in a tree but it's a tree in a forest. So like behind the house there's foliage but in front there's like a clearing.

Tree @ Monday, January 17th 2011, 12:00 PM

haha, this is cool. i like the mask thing.

Nobody @ Tuesday, January 18th 2011, 2:40 PM

okay, well, at first I was gonna do a shading redline, but sai won't open up for me atm, so I hope some good ol' fashion word critique will do

For the shading: the candle wouldn't really do anything in broad daylight, actually - especially for a flame without any white (meaning it's weak). Here's a picture of someone holding a lighter when it's not dark: http://www.zurmat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/USB_flash_drive_light.jpg
Notice how even when the flame is that close to the hand, there is no illumination, just because the stronger light source around it basically overpowers it. I would also pronounce the other shadows in the picture more, since they're just teetering around the lines. The shadow that really SHOULD be more is the one under his helmet thing, 'cause that's directly blocking the sun. You could add some fur texture, too; it doesn't need to be heavy, but just where the shading starts, to make it feel a little more tangible.
I would also suggest experimenting with shading color a little, because the colors you use atm are either just darker, blacker versions of the base color, or something close. I think a bright brownish-tan/lively forest green mix would have made a nice color scheme (color scheme can be very important to a picture).

As for anatomy: the legs are a little confusing. His eyes also seem too far apart, but I don't know what his original design looks like, so I can't really redline anything. The way you drew him, he isn't really interacting with the plane of the background at all, so it looks like he's literally on the edge of that wooden panel and is about to fall off. I don't think a digitigrade animal really could sit that way on a ledge.
His hands are off, too; it seems more like they're linking together, rather than holding a candle. Here's a reference that you could use for the hands: http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/91282/91282,1229581743,1/stock-photo-photo-of-sad-angel-holding-burning-candle-while-standing-under-snowfall-22191481.jpg (sorry; you have to manually copy and paste it)
The neck and the head shape kind of don't work well, either; the neck is barely there, but the head is very pronounced; usually you can only work with that kind of head shape with more neck.

I guess I should also suggest (as I do with anyone that the advice could apply to) that you could experiment with composition in the future. A square canvas can be just right for some things, but for other things, rectangular canvases make it more interesting to look at. Just a couple compositions I can think of for this one are a perspective from the back of the dark treehouse room, so you see him staring at the sky and all of the bright colors of daytime are pronounced against the darkness of the room; or a tall canvas where you can see the entire treehouse, and the trees of the forest peaking over, to give the setting a real sense of depth.

Anyway, I hope that wasn't more than what you were hoping for; I have this proclivity to give out very long-winded (and I suppose some of the younger ones also find it a little too harsh for their palate, because I usually don't throw in compliments to water it down) critique, but I hope it's worth something to you.

(Edited on January 18, 2011, 2:42 pm)

Seidal @ Wednesday, January 19th 2011, 7:46 PM

Oh wow, your lines have certainly gotten cleaner Khad <3 Try not to be overwhelmed.. this looks like quite a project, so just take it in bite-sized pieces at a time :3

Nobody, I really like the critique and advice you laid out. I'm going to try and incorporate those into my next 'kakis

Khadyah @ Wednesday, January 19th 2011, 10:07 PM

@Nobody: Thanks a lot for the advice, I'm pretty sure I understand what you were trying to get at on most of your points c: I'll try to use the tips for my pics in the future, thanks again.

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Khadyah @ Tuesday, June 1st 2010, 7:22 PM

Surprise fanart for my friend, though I'm afraid I made her character a little... OUT of character <:T

I don't really know why I worked so hard on this, but the picture came to mind and I really wanted to work HARD on something since I haven't done so in quite a long while <:3 So I just ended up working hard on this.

Errr... I feel like I totally failed at trying to make the picture seem darkened :c

(Edited on June 5, 2010, 6:23 pm)

Star @ Saturday, June 5th 2010, 9:07 PM

i could never
spend
all that time drawing a picture ;A;
i think the most time i spent drawing a picture
is like
160 minutes??
but
dude
i like your style
and your hardwork
and your dedication to your art

Fallout @ Monday, June 7th 2010, 8:27 PM

if you wanna make it look more dark then you should put a slightly transparent layer of black on the top; it really helps
and i yeah i agree with star i really love how much dedication you put into your art it really shows

Seidal @ Friday, June 11th 2010, 10:18 PM

oh wow beautiful.. Those eyes look fantastic

.Psychopath. @ Monday, June 14th 2010, 11:20 PM

this turned out really amazing!
i loveee the shading on everthing C:

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Khadyah @ Wednesday, April 28th 2010, 6:42 PM

For another art trade |D;

(Edited on April 29, 2010, 8:21 pm)

Star @ Thursday, April 29th 2010, 9:44 PM

dude

the rainbow on its chest
is so boss
& your lines are neeat~

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Friday, April 30th 2010, 12:36 PM

Hahaha I love the lineart again xD
And yeah the rainbow gradient is nice :3

soulwithin465 @ Monday, May 3rd 2010, 10:28 AM

Haha this is the most awesome character design EVERRRRRR!!!!

Seidal @ Saturday, May 8th 2010, 12:56 AM

Wow, that design IS really awesome.
And the world needs more rainbows.
Khad, you're improving so much!!

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Khadyah @ Monday, April 26th 2010, 7:59 PM

For an art trade for someone on dA c:

(Edited on April 26, 2010, 9:49 pm)

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Tuesday, April 27th 2010, 10:30 AM

KHAD DOLL good to see ya <3
HNNNNNNGG your lineart is so nice!!

soulwithin465 @ Monday, May 3rd 2010, 10:24 AM

Those lines are so smooth *u*
And I like the outline of blue with the dots~

Seidal @ Saturday, May 8th 2010, 12:50 AM

Omigawrsh those are some delicious looking lines... and the bg is adorable :3

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Khadyah @ Saturday, March 27th 2010, 1:38 PM

Well it's my sister's birthday on the 31st so I drew her a little something c: It's her fursona, which I had made for her for a previous birthday.

I like it ^^

And I have nothing else to say so I'll stop talking and say nothing |D;

(Edited on March 30, 2010, 3:59 pm)

Gecko @ Wednesday, March 31st 2010, 10:38 AM

Ah, tell her I said Happy Birthday~ <3
btw this is awesome ;; I love them eyes! <33

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Wednesday, March 31st 2010, 5:15 PM

aw garsh this is so cute <333 Your sister must've loved it <3
I like your coloring :3

Seidal @ Wednesday, March 31st 2010, 6:06 PM

Gaaaa so adorable! And I love your soft shading...

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Khadyah @ Wednesday, March 3rd 2010, 7:44 PM

W-well it's done! I'm sorry it took so long for me to start on my third tryout |D; I really had no idea what to draw for a long time.

I sorta feel bad because all my pictures are cats but really... cats are the only thing I feel confident enough to draw to get accepted :D; Other things like canines and rodents are works in process. I only JUST started drawing rodents a lot and I have a problem of defining canines. I can't seem to define a fox from a dog from a wolf very well. I'm working on that |D

And I decided to draw this because I got a lot better at drawing female bodies. :3 Like... pretty quickly.

So crit away~

(Edited on March 6, 2010, 4:39 pm)

UNKNOWN_ARTIST @ Friday, March 5th 2010, 6:05 PM

ya, no safety save button here.

keep up the good works

(Edited on March 6, 2010, 9:17 am)

Seidal @ Friday, March 5th 2010, 8:08 PM

Looking sweet so far, Khad~
^__^

Anne Dyari @ Saturday, March 6th 2010, 6:20 PM

You've definately been improving throughout your tryouts, but I would've liked to see stronger lighting on the black parts, especcially with the moon so big.
The shading on the face is really nice, and the lock of red is really well done. Overall, I'll say in. ^^

soulwithin465 @ Saturday, March 6th 2010, 10:24 PM

Alright there is obviously BIG improvement right here!
The proportions are well balanced out and you really seem to be strengthening your style! However, as stated, I would have liked to see some more distinct shading. However, the shading is beautiful it?s just a bit hard to distinguish between the different shades. But the highlights in the hair are wonderful and I really enjoy the serene feeling this image gives off. And I must say, I LOVE that right hand! Overall I vote in as well. You?ve obviously grown in many areas and I feel that you are defiantly intermediate enough. Hope to see more from you soon <3

Gecko @ Sunday, March 7th 2010, 9:24 AM

Khad, this is amazing ;; <3
I definatly say in, you're shading is amazing and ffff <33

Seidal @ Sunday, March 7th 2010, 1:39 PM

Great improvement! Oh this looks nice.
I like how you used different colors to outline your character and how your subject shows action

For a touch-up, I might erase the gray line either half-way or completely in the elbow area and put some shading instead to keep the smooth look. The glow around the stars are also done very well.

The violin and angles of the feet might be a little wonky.. but I still give you kudos because most people are paranoid about drawing feet..... and musical instruments (myself included).

And don't feel bad about only being able to draw cats... I can really only draw men... so let's both practice to draw other things well together~ <3

Or.. you know, we can both just really improve on drawing cats and men to make a sweet trademark

IN

(Edited on March 7, 2010, 1:42 pm)

Khadyah @ Sunday, March 7th 2010, 6:38 PM

B'aaaw thanks for the positive feedback, everyone~ ^^ I'm so glad you liked it :3

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Thursday, March 11th 2010, 8:37 PM

KHAD <3
I think all the crits have been stated, so I'm'a go ahead and say IN!

Seidal @ Saturday, March 13th 2010, 9:41 PM

so start drawin~ <3 XD

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Khadyah @ Saturday, December 19th 2009, 3:33 PM

-sigh- Done <:3 I'm sorry that I'm bad at backgrounds, I haven't had much practice in them |D;

(Edited on December 20, 2009, 10:04 pm)

Toasteh @ Monday, December 21st 2009, 3:16 PM

Just a tip: if there's something you /know/ you aren't good at, it's a good idea to work on them before trying out here. What we're looking for (As far as I know) is a decent grip on anatomy, perspective, etc. but I think you could work on some things.
Speaking anatomically, the thing that stood out the most to me was the length difference of the arms. UMM. THERE ARE. OTHER THINGS. But I'm terrible at explaining things so I'll...do a basic redline.
I know you draw in a cartoon-y style, but it is important to have a solid foundation to work off of when you stylize something. I did think this was a cat at first glance though, so props there.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2uxz5sx.png
It's probs pretty bad, sorry!! I tried to keep your style in mind so...haha.
Well the torso was a bit long, so I shortened that...the legs (To me, anyway) didn't show much movement, assuming he's walking down the street. This might help you with that, or alternately you could take a trip to youtube haha...
Now the head is pretty huge...but that's okay, because in a style like this it doesn't stick out so much. In my redline...it totally does...but OKAY well this person pulled off the "Big head, small neck" stylization REALLY WELL, so that's kind of what I thought of: http://hellodingo.deviantart.com/art/kate-is-not-happy-about-this-146817933
When you draw an anthro like this, it's important to remember that it should be more animal than human; that's the appeal. So it would be helpful to study/sketch/whatever the skeletal and muscular structure of humans and whatever animal it's supposed to be.
...ehh just a tip, haha.

I'll leave the rest to someone else; I'm tired. Feel free to let me know if something is up with my redline.
As per the background, I'll put it bluntly. PLEASE work on perspective! It will save your life, I'm telling you.

UHH I don't know how to vote right now but I may...say something later, I kind of need to mull it over.
And good luck!

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Tuesday, December 22nd 2009, 6:30 PM

Toast covered a lot and I really don't feel like going over much...
here's something quick about the perspective of this... http://www.iaza.com/work/091223C/khad_delete74302.png
idk if the road is curving or something but it's easier to keep it straight
And Toasteh corrected this in her redline, but I'm gonna say it just in case you don't catch it: the way the torso is turned... it seems like it would be kinda unnatural and uncomfortable to be walking while in that position... maybe it's just me...
aaaannnd the b/g... looks kinda like a dodge/burn overload.. xD uh, so... yeah...
um but I think you're improving! I also don't really know what to vote but I'm thinking third? If you can incorporate more of what the crits that were given said your tryouts lacked in... then hopefully..!

[EDIT] Arrrg y'know I don't think I did the perspective thing right AT ALL hnnngggg so forget it
it shouldn't be completely parallel but kinda turn into the vanishing point... uh yeah... but the perspective on this isn't really extreme so idk. I'M TERRIBLE AT CRITIQUEING

(Edited on December 22, 2009, 8:10 pm)

Anne Dyari @ Friday, December 25th 2009, 12:34 PM

Your anatomy is definately improving, and I like the shading on the fur/skin.
The main things I'm having a hard time with is the strong texture over white of the street and background. When using texture(which I'm bad at too), try using the main color underneath, and when adding texture, change the hue to slightly off, so the texture is more smooth and blends in.
Also, I want dramatic lighting! -bad at that too- Throw in the lighting to match the time of day, strong during the early morning and evening. Lighting will tie the character and the background together.
I want to see a third... you're really close.

issi_007 @ Saturday, December 26th 2009, 1:12 PM

I've been sick all week, so I'm sorry if I sound a little harsh and mean. Ughhh sorry <33

I say third.

Try to stay away from pillow shading. It makes the image flat. Look up a tutorial on shading, as it'll show you a few concepts which I can in no way describe.

I do love how clean this is. However, you need to work on perspective. Even though the sidewalk is curved, it does not change the principles of perspective.

I love the colours you've used, though.

ffff aww those cheeks are adorable. ;o;

okay that's it.
Once again, sorry if I sound harsh. <33

Khadyah @ Saturday, December 26th 2009, 1:38 PM

Okay, third it is, thank you guys for the critiques, hopefully I'll do better on my third ^^

And I see that some of you guys are afraid of being to harsh but seriously, I can take it and I see all the points you guys are getting at so I'll try to work on my perspective A LOT (I kinda suck at it yes)

Now I gotta brain storm at what to draw |D; TIME TO GO TO SLEEP >:D

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Khadyah @ Friday, December 18th 2009, 4:26 PM

All donesies c: Crit away

I realize that my anatomy is probably off quite a bit because I have trouble with using real pictures as references :T I tried to do it a little but still... it probably didn't help that much.

Well anyway enjoy~

(Edited on December 18, 2009, 9:09 pm)

Arf @ Friday, December 18th 2009, 9:27 PM

bawww you beat me at getting your first tryout finished!! D: lol x3

good luck<3!

Khadyah @ Friday, December 18th 2009, 9:38 PM

Yeaaah well Arfie, that's because I, unlike you, don't have any life whatsoever c: I'm an incredibly unhealthy, malnutritioned, lazy, procrastinating, internet addicted young woman with a rash.

:3 And that's the difference between me and you. I finished this in one day solely because I spend to much time on the interwebs.

Thank you ^^

(Edited on December 18, 2009, 9:38 pm)

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Friday, December 18th 2009, 9:44 PM

Ahaha I agree with what you said to Arf... and I'm the same as you xD lol
Ok, I'm on my Wii right now so um, I'm not gonna crit quite yet... will get to it soon though...

Arf @ Friday, December 18th 2009, 9:47 PM

;__; i miss it when i was like you guys!!
luckily my Christmas break officially begins now that today is over!!

so i can waste my life on the cpu!! i want to finish and stop procrastinating!!

Khadyah @ Friday, December 18th 2009, 9:55 PM

@ Kyuubi-Kitsune: ...I didn't know you had a rash .-.

@ Arf: Yay for life wasting

-highfive-

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Friday, December 18th 2009, 9:57 PM

Arf, no. Just, no. Getting caught up in cpu world is the worst thing you can do (though I would like you to finish your tryout too).
Arrrg I'm homeschooled and my mom's not giving us Christmas break till Christmas eve T^T luckily I don't have co-op classes, but still... I hate school

@khadyah lol itchy dry skin=perpetual rash

(Edited on December 18, 2009, 9:58 pm)

Khadyah @ Friday, December 18th 2009, 9:59 PM

I'm home schooled too c: I think my mom is giving us a break because my older brother is getting a break in collage but I not 100% sure >3> But weekend is here

Yushness

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Friday, December 18th 2009, 10:03 PM

Yay home schooled buddies!! -high fives-
My bro's got break from college too, I think... I think he has finals early this week and then he's free C:

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Friday, December 18th 2009, 11:37 PM

ok I'm on the computer now and can get to the critiques...
please note that I'm tired right now and am probably making zero sense...
Firstly, I love your style of shading/highlighting. The textures look lovely <3
The legs are.. off. The way a cat's leg bends is... Well, cat's stand on their toes, you see. When drawing full body of an animal, it helps for me to picture a person standing on their fingers and toes. here, I drew something crappy up: http://www.iaza.com/work/091219C/later116620.PNG
The same applies with the front legs; they're standing on their fingers: http://www.iaza.com/work/091219C/later233639.PNG
Ok, um, I'm not so confident in my anatomy so I could be wrong... anyway, I'll zoom through some crits...
The shading, although nice, seems to be misplaced in a couple areas. I can't really tell which angle the light source (the sun, I think xD) is coming from... I'm guessing around the top-left of the picture?? if so, it might be more like this? http://www.iaza.com/work/091219C/later390206.PNG
Also, the eyes... kinda bug me.. they're just... black... you couldt've added highlights or color or something? The background is nice, but a liiiiittle flat too...
um it's bedtime now so i g2g
but good luck on you next tryout!

(Edited on December 19, 2009, 8:07 am)

Khadyah @ Saturday, December 19th 2009, 12:03 PM

Okay I understand where you're getting at ^^;

And the thing about the eyes... he doesn't have 'em |D; I thought about adding something but I don't know how to shade a hole >->;

Kyuubi-Kitsune @ Saturday, December 19th 2009, 5:58 PM

xD oh, ok. yeah idk how you'd shade that either.
Btw, you've improved so much from your previous tryouts <3

Toasteh @ Monday, December 21st 2009, 2:40 PM

Definitely an improvement from your past tryouts! However anatomy is still something you need to grasp better. You may want to practice drawing or at least looking at skeletal and muscular structure when you draw. The body itself is a bit thin and (Please don't take this the wrong way) looks a bit like a clay sculpture...? The legs and head look like they were just...stuck on there and as for the tail, it's much too thick at the base. Everyone's heard this many times before, but the tail is an extension of the spine. If it helps, you could try (When you're sketching) defining the spine, and that might help...
WELL OKAY I DON'T WANT TO COVER ANATOMY ANYMORE someone else can jump in.
Now for the background: the perspective is off by quite a bit. Another cliche in a tryout comment--generally things that are farther away look smaller, and things that are closer look larger. What we have here is a case of "Copy+paste syndrome," which...means the subject looks like it was copy and pasted onto a background. If it helps, you might want to try pulling up some pictures of buildings, etc. and try sketching them out. That should help you get a better grip on perspective.

I'll leave anything else to whoever wants to jump in. I didn't cover much, so if anyone wants to go more in depth...?
Good luck!

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Khadyah @ Saturday, March 21st 2009, 3:16 PM

Done ^-^;;;

(Edited on March 21, 2009, 9:04 pm)

Anne Dyari @ Sunday, March 22nd 2009, 1:25 PM

I'm going to have to say out. My main crit is the limbs, the front fore limb cannot bend that low, and even a straightened limb has some motion to it. The back legs are an issue for everyone, but try looking at a dog as refference, there are three bending points, not just two.

I do, though, really like your shading, and how you did take my advice and integrate the background in more, but still, I reccomend using a refference next time. I hope you come back and tryout again! ^^

A quick redline http://i40.tinypic.com/24nfjav.png

Khadyah @ Sunday, March 22nd 2009, 7:45 PM

O:> oh ok. And thanks for the redline

Toasteh @ Monday, March 23rd 2009, 5:33 PM

Okay, Anne covered most of the crits but I'd like to go on.

The heads are large, but I'll leave that to style. What bothers me about them is that the perspective on them is, well...off. On your green character the eyes show a 3/4 view on the face, while the muzzle says differently. The nose should be more to the front--simply changing the nose's position makes a world of a difference.
As for the face of the white dog, for the most part, you got it correct. I would only suggest looking at more reference. http://kimballstock.com --BOOKMARK IT.

As for the bodies, it doesn't look like you have much of a knowledge of the structure of them. SERIOUSLY, go to that site I showed you above and look up dog or whatever you want to look up. Tell me now, what do we notice? Well your necks (And well, the bodies in general) are rather thin. I hope I'm not being mean when I say the characters look like long-legged ferrets? But yes, the bodies should be much thicker--there're bones and organs and such, you know!

I'd also like to say that I love your shading style, but the shading itself is a bit off. I mean, they're under trees and such right? I'd also like to see you give your characters a little more depth.

I'm going to have to say out for now, honey. I don't think we're quite up to par yet, but all I can suggest is that you go out and STUDY STUDY STUDY for the next six weeks. Make sure you bookmark that site I showed you! Trust me, it helps A LOT. I drew this without reference-- http://i43.tinypic.com/e7gv48.png this-- http://i40.tinypic.com/34dmmn5.png with. Can you see the difference?
Also make sure you study an animal's bone structure, muscles, etc. You can also grab a living animal and just...watch it run...stand...sit...everything, to get an idea of how those bones and muscles are being put to work. If you don't have the time to study all those bones and such, just...hug a puppy. C:

Alright then, I've provided a basic redline-- http://i42.tinypic.com/2dkydsh.jpg

I hope to see you here again in six weeks. I don't think you have much farther to go before being accepted.

Moo @ Monday, March 23rd 2009, 8:46 PM

You have plenty of crits, so I'm not going to add any more here. But good luck on your next tryouts!

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Khadyah @ Thursday, March 19th 2009, 11:58 AM

It's been I while so I thought why not tryout again ^-^; FYI, it's a kangaroo. I'm sorry for choosing an animal with such strange anatomy but I love them and I had this picture in my head 8D

Ok the brb may have been weird but I wanted to comment more but I had to leave ^-^; akdhdka but now I forgot what I was going to say D:> um... PLEASE CRIT -flee- and and the wings stink .-.

(Edited on March 19, 2009, 7:37 pm)

Anne Dyari @ Thursday, March 19th 2009, 10:39 PM

This is really stylized, making it awkward to crit, but the arm looks attatched alittle too foreward, and there's no shoulder. Maybe also have abit more of the upper bend part of the leg be more prominent.
https://www.northrup.org/Photos/Kangaroo/low/kangaroo-laying8.jpg <-- good example of kangaroo legs

Other than that, I wouldn've liked to see more highlights and interaction with the background, but the shading is smooth and and lines are clean. Cute design too, good luck on your next tryout ^^

Toasteh @ Saturday, March 21st 2009, 3:05 PM

I think Anne pretty much covered it but I'd like to add one thing--
Wings? They don't look a whole lot like that. :I
I'm sure this is a fantasy character but fantasy does take up its roots in reality.
I can't redline or anything atm but I would recommend using references when you draw, it's a huge help.
A good stock site is http://kimballstock.com, I end up using it a lot. C:

Khadyah @ Saturday, March 21st 2009, 3:24 PM

@ Tosteh: Yeaaaaah I realize I messed up very badly on the wings ^-^; I'm originally not very good drawing feathery wings plus I added after I started on the lineart because I forgot them...

(Edited by Toasteh)
HARHAR I'm not good at wings either. >u>
I just recommend reference and practice--and not just for wings, it's helpful for poses and anatomy as well!

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Khadyah @ Monday, November 3rd 2008, 4:16 PM

I'm actually PROUD of this one! 8D

The clouds and the sky came out a little... messy, but I love the grass and the path. This was my first time using textures to shade and I think it came out kinda successful. Though I think I could have used a finer texture.

I'm seriously going all out on these tryouts. Just like the one before, this is my first time doing this pose, first time doing a background like this, and a first time trying out more detailed anatomy.

Now for downsides...

The sun came out undesirable and frankly Toboggan(the name of this character) doesn't really look like a fox, but just like a dog .3. . I'm not good at drawing differences between wolves, foxes, and dogs. Or any kind of canine D|

POODLEPEE @ Wednesday, November 5th 2008, 12:42 AM

You should be proud.
This came out very nicely.

Sorry for the absence of comments.
WOA isn't very popular yet.

ANYWAYS; crits C:
I do like the pose you have, but te body seems like it goes kinda skinny in the back. Watch your view.
Next, the shading is very simple. I don't see much wrong with it besides the awkward tone-look. When using tones, you need to switch the tone to make it fade into the base color.
Your lines are nice, but they need to be tapered! Come onnnnn tapering is fun C:
Also, the background looks a little rushed.

Overall the picture is adorable.
I would say practice for 6 more weeks though.
I don't think your quite there yet, but with a little practice, you'll surely make it!

Khadyah @ Thursday, November 6th 2008, 4:03 PM

O: ok... :3 Another 6 weeks it is

ShiPainter

Khadyah @ Wednesday, October 22nd 2008, 7:28 PM

I was on WO beginner so I thought I'd try out for intermediate. I'm probably not good enough but... could it hurt? I know I'm a terrible artist soo... crit away! Doesn't hurt me!

This is the first time so I wanted to ask a few questions
1. how many trys do I get?
2. do I have to do all of them or if you can see my art is good enough you'll let me in?
3. What are requirements for my tryout pictures?
4. If someone got in Advanced would they automatically be able to draw on Intermediate?
5. Do you need to have requirements to crit on someone's tryout?

ok that's it. I know the color is leaking a little, but I thought that would be good water affect... Even though the water affects stink.

(Edited on October 22, 2008, 8:25 pm)

Khadyah @ Friday, October 24th 2008, 3:20 PM

.__________. ok since no one seems to crit on it I'll crit my own picture -shot- Mostly only because i saw a lot of things wrong with it

Ok... well the shading is third rate and if there is no light (because I didn't put rays of light) why is his head and muzzle shiny? The head is unrealistically round and the hind legs would be to short to support him. Also the claw is only on the inside of the paw, not the outside (I only found this out after i drew the pic >____> ). The web in his fingers wouldn't help him swim at all, I can barely see them. The clam looks stupid because I have no idea how to draw them and I didn't use a reference. The tail doesn't look like it's going into the background, it just looks plain small. He's under water, his whiskers should be sorta floating to the top as he slowed down. The anatomy looks cartoonish and undetailed (which is really just how I draw but still...). The eye doesn't really have shape and the one on the right looks slanted.

The only thing I like in this picture is the bubbles and the fin -runs off to make tryout #2-

manic-sonic @ Saturday, October 25th 2008, 2:19 PM

yeah i know what it's like ;_____; my first comment was a week after i posted it, but its because this oekaki isnt very active XD

but i really like this, good luck~ <3 and those eyes are epic!

Khadyah @ Saturday, October 25th 2008, 3:27 PM

@ Manic Sonic: oh wow I week ._______. yikes... Well thanks for the complements but I'm pretty sure this stinks ^^; -flee-

manic-sonic @ Saturday, October 25th 2008, 3:41 PM

IT DONT STINK >:|

ITS BAD TO LIE YOU GET ULSERS ON YOUR TOUNGE >:|

POODLEPEE @ Saturday, October 25th 2008, 4:16 PM

This oekaki is very inactive.
I appologize.
It's our newest one.

:C

Khadyah @ Saturday, October 25th 2008, 6:41 PM

@ Manic: DX Nu uh this stink, I seriously don't like this picture...

@ PP: It s'okay C: . I'm gonna try out but take your time if it's gonna take a while to comment. I just noticed a lot of bad stuff myself soo... I got bored ._______.;

Moo @ Sunday, October 26th 2008, 5:35 PM

Yeah, this place isn't very active at all yet. Very sorry for the inconvenience. Would you like me to redline it for you?

Khadyah @ Monday, October 27th 2008, 3:49 PM

@ Moo: yeah I redline would be great, thanks C:

Moo @ Monday, November 3rd 2008, 9:29 PM

Alright, I posted your redline at the top of the page! C:

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